Diablo III

[Trash_your_ass]

Astheure ce qui est ben hot c'est le crit chance et le crit damage.

[drjackson]

Va juste falloir s'adapter en faisant des DH qui priorise un peu plus la armor/allres/vita. C'est sur que sur l'instant c'est chiant mais bon, faut s'adapter pour survivre.

Justement tlm crie au scandale sur les forums officiels. Crime spas compliqué faut s'adapter pis pogner des items avec du crit dessus c'est tout. Sérieux un wizard qui fait presque 3 attack second c'est comme trop la. Le nerf sur l'attack speed me donne un arrière gout de ''on nerf car quand le pvp va sortir sa va etre trop OP''

[Darksoul Zenox]

Les item Idestructible aussi vont valoir la peine en maudit maintenant, avec mes 2 bill de 80K de reparation d'hier..ouch.

[Dj_REL]

A vrai dire il va falloir s'adapter pour le repair aussi. Blizzard on cru bon de changer ça à cause des joueurs qui crevaient trop souvent et continuaient à faire des élites. L'acte 1 est quand même facile a inferno et maintenant il a une chance de droper des ilvl 63 ce qui est quand même bon. J'ai fait une coupe de run avec mon DH sans crever, avant le nerf je faisais l'acte 2 sans crever mais bon, maintenant je crois que les joueurs qui commencent vont devoir farmer l'acte 4 a hell sans mourir pour ensuite migrer vers l'acte 1.

[veritas]

Justement tlm crie au scandale sur les forums officiels. Crime spas compliqué faut s'adapter pis pogner des items avec du crit dessus c'est tout. Sérieux un wizard qui fait presque 3 attack second c'est comme trop la. Le nerf sur l'attack speed me donne un arrière gout de ''on nerf car quand le pvp va sortir sa va etre trop OP''

Le monde crie parce qu'ils ont dépensé plusieurs millions sur leur build d'attack speed, maintenant leur items ne valent presque rien et ils doivent presque recommencer à 0...

[ÐÉΚADENCE]

Fallait être naïf pour penser qu'il n'y aurait pas de changements qui affecteraient les items dans les deux ou trois premiers mois. Avant de dépenser des millions, falalit laisser le jeu évoluer.... mais bon, ça implique de se fier aux drops pour se gearer alors je comprends que ça forcer à considérer l'AH comme un moyen quasi indispensable pour améliorer son perso.

[veritas]

Comme dit plus tôt les changements apportés sont problablement du au jeu PvP, n'empêche que j'ai l'impression que maintenant presque toute les classes se ''buildent'' d'une façon ou presque, ce qui est dommage..

[Yaniko]

Il faut laisser le jeu évoluer et s'attendre à des changements drastiques tous les mois?

Est-ce que je suis entrain de jouer à un jeu BETA?

Oui, et c'est quelque peu décevant.

[Hobo Sympathique]

Il faut laisser le jeu évoluer et s'attendre à des changements drastiques tous les mois?

Est-ce que je suis entrain de jouer à un jeu BETA?

Oui, et c'est quelque peu décevant.

Les jeux impliquant des actions de style, compétition, PvP ou autre facteurs pouvant causer avantages/désavantages auront toujours des Patch pour balancer le jeu.

Tu insinuerait que le premier Starcraft fut en béta pendant 14 ans? Que Diablo 2 à toujours été un beta?

Ce genre de jeu à toujours besoins de balancement car l'équilibre parfait n'existe pas.

[Yaniko]

Mon point est que plusieurs choses du patch note aurait du être catché bien avant la release. Le jeu est/a été en phase beta pendant X mois et maintenant les monks peuvent utiliser des two handed sword? Pourquoi ça n'a pas été catché avant qu'augmenter l'attaque des monstres lorsque tu es plusieurs joueurs est complètement stupide? En solo tu peux survive mais à cause que tu veux jouer coop tu peux te faire one shooter, c'est stupide. Diablo 3 n'est pas le premier jeu, mais osti que je déteste le fait que les jeux sont sorti tout croche et on se fit au patch pour "arranger" le jeu.

Starcraft 1 a pratiquement toujours été viable, le problème a toujours été au niveau de la compétition sérieuse, pis anyway ce n'est pas un bon exemple car je pouvais jouer en LAN et single player sans me faire chier avec une patch, et j'en ai passé de belle nuit blanche à jouer à Starcraft 1 et Counter Strike!

T'as vu la panoplie de bugs qu'ils ont fixé dont le fait que tu pouvais trader sans nécessairement avoir approuvé le trade!? OSTI!!!

Modifié 21 juin 2012 par Yaniko

[Le Messie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzGBaU21gY

Sèche tes pleurs, sèche tes pleurs

J't'en prie sèche tes pleurs.

[Hobo Sympathique]

Honnêtement... ce que tu sors comme problème me fais presque penser au joueur qui veulent que Diablo 3 se joue avec WASD...

Lol...

Diablo avec WASD... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Akoji]

Mon point est que plusieurs choses du patch note aurait du être catché bien avant la release. Le jeu est/a été en phase beta pendant X mois et maintenant les monks peuvent utiliser des two handed sword? Pourquoi ça n'a pas été catché avant qu'augmenter l'attaque des monstres lorsque tu es plusieurs joueurs est complètement stupide? En solo tu peux survive mais à cause que tu veux jouer coop tu peux te faire one shooter, c'est stupide. Diablo 3 n'est pas le premier jeu, mais osti que je déteste le fait que les jeux sont sorti tout croche et on se fit au patch pour "arranger" le jeu.

Starcraft 1 a pratiquement toujours été viable, le problème a toujours été au niveau de la compétition sérieuse, pis anyway ce n'est pas un bon exemple car je pouvais jouer en LAN et single player sans me faire chier avec une patch, et j'en ai passé de belle nuit blanche à jouer à Starcraft 1 et Counter Strike!

T'as vu la panoplie de bugs qu'ils ont fixé dont le fait que tu pouvais trader sans nécessairement avoir approuvé le trade!? OSTI!!!

Criss au moin ils patchent le jeu, y'a d'autres studios qui patch jamais leurs jeux et les laisses à moités brisés.

[Darksoul Zenox]

CALVAIRE les book of jewelry que j'ai acheter 350 Gold sont rendu 2500 ce matin, je les ai vendu a 1400 avant hier

FUCK! J'aurais fait 40 Million

[MeThod]

z'etes au courant ?

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/00059492-l-armageddon-de-diablo-iii-termine-en-mode-hardcore.htm

[Darksoul Zenox]

Diablo III Patch 1.0.4.17084

-General

-4th/5th preference slot added to Auction House/Real Money Auction House, ilvl search slot also added.

-Group chat feature implemented, invite up to 10 friends to a chat via an icon in your friends list, an ignore chat invite feature has also been added to eliminate possible spam abuse.

-You may only invite someone to a chat once per 5 minutes.

-Classes

-Witch Doctor

-Animation length of some support spells have been shortened by a small amount.

-A bug with Spirit Walk that stopped the Witch Doctor from passing through Walls from the "Waller" affix has been removed.

-A bug with the Zombie Bears rune has been fixed that was causing the attack to not cross small cracks and minor terrain changes, or to register properly when being used up or down hill from enemies on ramps.

-Health on summons has been scaled to give them some survivability chance in the inferno difficulty.

-Mana cost on all signature spells for the Witch Doctor have been removed to alleviate some concerns with mana costs and Vision Quest feeling like a required passive skill.

-Monks

-Base spirit regeneration set to 1 per second instead of 0.

-Items

-Attack speed bonus values on weapons and armor will be set to 45% instead of 50% so odd numbers will round up instead of down in value. (Example: 15% would now be 8% instead of 7%)

-ilvl60+ items now sell to the npc for 1.5x their original value to help curve repair cost loss and make magic on par with gold find.

-A 5% chance to block has been added to all Off-Hand items for all classes.

-Wear and tear durability loss (Non-death loss) on all items has been reduced by 75%, as well as a 20% reduction to the increased repair costs.

-The Armor stat has been boosted to actually be a viable stat to consider when equiping your character, particularly against the increased damage from melee in inferno.

-Potion cooldown has been reduced to 15 seconds instead of 30, and passives will no longer reduce the cooldown of potions, this will hopefully alleviate some of the kiting some players deem so necessary and door abuse due to an inability to heal unavoidable damage.

-An Ultimate Health Potion has also been added to the vendors in act 2-4 of inferno which will heal 40,000 hp at a cost of 1,000 per potion, along with being dropped in these acts at a rarer than mystic rate.

-Diamonds have been added to the drops in-game with this patch, which will add to weapon attack speed when put in a weapon slot, Life Regeneration when placed in a helmet slot, and + to all resistances in any other slot, there are the same categories as the other gems available.

-Gems up to rank 12 will now be viable loot, at an extremely low rate of course, reflective of acts in Inferno. (Act 1=9, Act 2=10, Act 3=11, Act 4=12)

-Crafting

-Pay to add sockets to an item at Shen, 250,000 gp per socket added, maximum 3 per chest armor, 2 per leg piece, and 1 per weapon or helmet.

-Pay to reroll an items stats randomly at blacksmith (ilvl will remain the same) for 200,000gp per roll, or 2 matching items of the same rarity plus 100,000gp, one item will be destroyed and the newly created item will take on the highest ilvl of the two items combined.

-Bosses

-All mid act + Final act bosses will drop a guaranteed top tier item for the difficulty you are playing (ilvl63 in inferno) with 5 stacks of valor on, blue or yellow rarity name items only.

-Enrage timers on bosses in inferno will no longer spell certain death, but increase the difficulty and damage taken to the player by an amount based on number of players in the party.

-Monsters

-Monster Affixes will now be divided into the following 3 categories:

-Offensive (Mortar, Plagued, Molten, Frozen, any that deal actual damage)

-Defensive (Reflect Damage, Shielding, Missile Dampening, Invulnerable)

-Support (Teleport, Waller, Jailer, Minion, Avenger, Vortex, Fast)

-With these categories, monsters in the inferno difficulty will be limited to how many from each category they will spawn with, 2 (3 in acts 3/4) from the offensive category, with 1 of each defensive and support no matter what act. This will hopefully eliminate some of the "zerging" people tend to fall back on when they would run into a rediculous combination of monsters prior to this patch. Monsters with predetermined affixes (such as Scavengers being fast) will eliminate one of their possible affixes in the support category.

-The damage from the serpents in Act 2 after they become visible again has been lowered significantly for the first round of attacks, since it creates alot of unnecessary kiting of a monster that isn't even technically on your screen for you to hit. Additionally the invulnerable moment during the Lucuni and Lasher attacks has been removed, and the color of the Bees projectile has been changed from the golden yellow that matches the sand to a much more obvious shade of green.

-Bug Fixes

-Nephalem Valor will now reset when more than one piece of equipment is changed within a 30 second time frame to prevent Magic find equipment swapping abuse, additionally an equipment and skill lock button have been added to prevent accidentally removing your valor.

-Magic find will still not effect droprates out of breaking pots etc, but the chance to loot equipment and other rares out of them has been reintroduced at a significantly lower rate.

-Resplendent chests now spawn at a 25% chance rate instead of 100% in certain mini dungeons and near any doorways that could lead to abuse, and the chance to pull actual rares out of them has been implemented again, with a guaranteed yellow rare for having 5 stacks of valor.

-A bug with the "Waller" affix throwing walls at an unnecessarily fast rate and at odd angles/shapes has been addressed, now they will only throw the wall at a degree that will stop you from walking straight, only completely stopping you from walking forward in narrow hallways.

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VRAIMENT satidfait de beaucoup de chose dans ca! L'ajout de socket, le Diamond, enfin, les limit de buff d'attack/def/support pour les champion pack, la dégradation d'équipement normale à 75%, le cooldown des potion a 15 sec...

J'aime bien jusqu'a maintenant.

[Akoji]

Diablo III Patch 1.0.4.17084

-General

-4th/5th preference slot added to Auction House/Real Money Auction House, ilvl search slot also added.

-Group chat feature implemented, invite up to 10 friends to a chat via an icon in your friends list, an ignore chat invite feature has also been added to eliminate possible spam abuse.

-You may only invite someone to a chat once per 5 minutes.

-Classes

-Witch Doctor

-Animation length of some support spells have been shortened by a small amount.

-A bug with Spirit Walk that stopped the Witch Doctor from passing through Walls from the "Waller" affix has been removed.

-A bug with the Zombie Bears rune has been fixed that was causing the attack to not cross small cracks and minor terrain changes, or to register properly when being used up or down hill from enemies on ramps.

-Health on summons has been scaled to give them some survivability chance in the inferno difficulty.

-Mana cost on all signature spells for the Witch Doctor have been removed to alleviate some concerns with mana costs and Vision Quest feeling like a required passive skill.

-Monks

-Base spirit regeneration set to 1 per second instead of 0.

-Items

-Attack speed bonus values on weapons and armor will be set to 45% instead of 50% so odd numbers will round up instead of down in value. (Example: 15% would now be 8% instead of 7%)

-ilvl60+ items now sell to the npc for 1.5x their original value to help curve repair cost loss and make magic on par with gold find.

-A 5% chance to block has been added to all Off-Hand items for all classes.

-Wear and tear durability loss (Non-death loss) on all items has been reduced by 75%, as well as a 20% reduction to the increased repair costs.

-The Armor stat has been boosted to actually be a viable stat to consider when equiping your character, particularly against the increased damage from melee in inferno.

-Potion cooldown has been reduced to 15 seconds instead of 30, and passives will no longer reduce the cooldown of potions, this will hopefully alleviate some of the kiting some players deem so necessary and door abuse due to an inability to heal unavoidable damage.

-An Ultimate Health Potion has also been added to the vendors in act 2-4 of inferno which will heal 40,000 hp at a cost of 1,000 per potion, along with being dropped in these acts at a rarer than mystic rate.

-Diamonds have been added to the drops in-game with this patch, which will add to weapon attack speed when put in a weapon slot, Life Regeneration when placed in a helmet slot, and + to all resistances in any other slot, there are the same categories as the other gems available.

-Gems up to rank 12 will now be viable loot, at an extremely low rate of course, reflective of acts in Inferno. (Act 1=9, Act 2=10, Act 3=11, Act 4=12)

-Crafting

-Pay to add sockets to an item at Shen, 250,000 gp per socket added, maximum 3 per chest armor, 2 per leg piece, and 1 per weapon or helmet.

-Pay to reroll an items stats randomly at blacksmith (ilvl will remain the same) for 200,000gp per roll, or 2 matching items of the same rarity plus 100,000gp, one item will be destroyed and the newly created item will take on the highest ilvl of the two items combined.

-Bosses

-All mid act + Final act bosses will drop a guaranteed top tier item for the difficulty you are playing (ilvl63 in inferno) with 5 stacks of valor on, blue or yellow rarity name items only.

-Enrage timers on bosses in inferno will no longer spell certain death, but increase the difficulty and damage taken to the player by an amount based on number of players in the party.

-Monsters

-Monster Affixes will now be divided into the following 3 categories:

-Offensive (Mortar, Plagued, Molten, Frozen, any that deal actual damage)

-Defensive (Reflect Damage, Shielding, Missile Dampening, Invulnerable)

-Support (Teleport, Waller, Jailer, Minion, Avenger, Vortex, Fast)

-With these categories, monsters in the inferno difficulty will be limited to how many from each category they will spawn with, 2 (3 in acts 3/4) from the offensive category, with 1 of each defensive and support no matter what act. This will hopefully eliminate some of the "zerging" people tend to fall back on when they would run into a rediculous combination of monsters prior to this patch. Monsters with predetermined affixes (such as Scavengers being fast) will eliminate one of their possible affixes in the support category.

-The damage from the serpents in Act 2 after they become visible again has been lowered significantly for the first round of attacks, since it creates alot of unnecessary kiting of a monster that isn't even technically on your screen for you to hit. Additionally the invulnerable moment during the Lucuni and Lasher attacks has been removed, and the color of the Bees projectile has been changed from the golden yellow that matches the sand to a much more obvious shade of green.

-Bug Fixes

-Nephalem Valor will now reset when more than one piece of equipment is changed within a 30 second time frame to prevent Magic find equipment swapping abuse, additionally an equipment and skill lock button have been added to prevent accidentally removing your valor.

-Magic find will still not effect droprates out of breaking pots etc, but the chance to loot equipment and other rares out of them has been reintroduced at a significantly lower rate.

-Resplendent chests now spawn at a 25% chance rate instead of 100% in certain mini dungeons and near any doorways that could lead to abuse, and the chance to pull actual rares out of them has been implemented again, with a guaranteed yellow rare for having 5 stacks of valor.

-A bug with the "Waller" affix throwing walls at an unnecessarily fast rate and at odd angles/shapes has been addressed, now they will only throw the wall at a degree that will stop you from walking straight, only completely stopping you from walking forward in narrow hallways.

---

VRAIMENT satidfait de beaucoup de chose dans ca! L'ajout de socket, le Diamond, enfin, les limit de buff d'attack/def/support pour les champion pack, la dégradation d'équipement normale à 75%, le cooldown des potion a 15 sec...

J'aime bien jusqu'a maintenant.

Tu sort sa de où?

C'est clairement fake, l'affaire du Nephlem Valor fait pas de sense, c'est pas un bug donc sa deverai même pas être dans la section bug fixes.

1.0.3 vien de sortir, j'peux pas croire que 1.0.4 soit déja fini.

Modifié 21 juin 2012 par Akoji

[Darksoul Zenox]

C'est un peu partout sur le net en ce moment, aucune idée, ca pourrait être fake aussi. Je l'Ai juste retranscris des 10000 site qui l'ont posté aussi.

[drjackson]

Clairement fake tout se qui est dans la section crafting risque d'etre la base du nouveau stuff de la prochaine expansion.

En plus personne en parle sur reddit de d3 fack j'pense pas que sa sois officiel la

[Yaniko]

Criss au moin ils patchent le jeu, y'a d'autres studios qui patch jamais leurs jeux et les laisses à moités brisés.

Bof, c'est du nivellement par le bas. Quand je sors un soft chez un client, je ne m'arrange pas pour qu'il soit plein de bugs pour ensuite justifier des patchs parce que on l'avait mal conçu.

Ce que vous appelez du "balancing" moi j'appelle ça une mauvaise conception. C'est une question de perception en bout de ligne.